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process, nor the u.s. law against killing americans abroad, nor the u.s. law banning assassinations, nor just the law against murder, nor the laws of war broadly legally constrain the president from ordering the type of assault that killed american citizen and prominent al qaeda figure on war al awlaki in yemen in 2011. al awlaki's son was also killed a couple of weeks after his father was killed. between those two killing, charlie savage at "the new york times" reported on the existence of a legal memo that the government was relying on to claim that the attack was legal. that memo is what is being disclosed to select members of congress tonight. it follows by two days the scoop by nbc news investigative correspondent michael isikoff, who this week on this show disclosed a white paper that was based on the reasoning of that secret memo. tonight's disclosure follows increasingly intense questioning of the administration on this matter by senate democrats, particularly by senator ron wyden of oregon, who today told reporters that while he understood that operations needed to be confidenti
on the first night of the u.s. ground war in afghanistan. since then the u.s. has conducted over 400 drone strikes in pakistan, yemen, and monthlia, while the pentagon drone fleet has expanded from 50 to 7,500. for the past decade american drone policy has existed largely in the shadows. its legal just ficks and moral underpinnings largely relegated to debate among progress severe media outlets and concerned libertarians. now as john brennan, the architect of the u.s. drone policy and president obama's mick to head the cia readies to testify this afternoon on capitol hill, calls for greater transparency and legal justification for the killings have increased. the outcry reached a crescendo on monday when nbc's michael isikoff obtained a leaked white pair from the government suggesting that the u.s. government can kill american set zenz overseas without any specific intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the u.s. the expansive legal framework set off alarm bells. >> every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. i
with its neighbors, peace negotiations and strengthening the u.s.-israeli strategic partnership. up next, the hacking into american computers. we're taking a deep dive into the security threat, who's being targeted and whether the u.s. government can do anything to stop it or whether they want to do anything to actively attempt to stop it. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. [ male announcer ] if you can clear a crowd but not your nasal congestion, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. zyrtec-d®. at the pharmacy counter. and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. i've always kept my eye on her... but with so much health care noise, i didn't always watch out for myself. with unitedhealthcare, i get personalized information and rewards for addressing my health risks. but she's still going to give me a heart attack. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >>> it was this day in 1972 when president nixon began his trip to the people's republic of china, becoming the fir
kansas city shopping district. >>> shocking allegations that cyber attacks on u.s. targets are coming not only from the chinese but from the chinese military. >>> plus, joe biden's assault rifle alternative and a sea otter that's got some game. >>> good morning. can daver dogs are being sent into kansas city to search for possible victims this morning after a blast leveled a section of the city shopping district. a gas explosion around 6:00 p.m. caused a massive fire at the popular jj's restaurant. witnesses said that came out of nowhere, as of yet, no confirmed fatalities. the primary concern is to find those missing. >> i came in, he told us to evacuate, next thing i know, everything just exploded. it was the scariest thing i ever witness zbld the flames were taller than the building next to it. there were people who were evacuating over here. so, it was just kind of crazy. >> those in the area report smelling gas in the moments leading up to explosion. they'll have to investigate further before any cause can be determined. >>> another emotional day in court for track star oscar pis
. >>> developing now, new information in to who may have been behind a suicide bomb attack at the u.s. embassy in turkey. within the past few hours, the white house reacted calling the attack a, quote, act of terror. officials say an embassy guard was killed when the bomb set off at the security checkpoint. >> right now, we are all dealing with our sadness at the loss of our fellow member of our embassy. we salute his bravery, his service to turkey and to turkish american friendship. our hearts go out to his family. >> nbc's kir joins us now. they're examined security cameras. what else are saying about the search for who's responsibility? >> that's right. smoke rising from the area and a heavily damaged door. we understand that the bomber and one other has been killed according to turkish interior ministry officials. it happened around 1:15 local time. near the first x-ray machine. managed to get to the first machine leading to the visa section and then detonated. the u.s. embassy saying one of those killed the guard at the gate and the turkish prime minister describing the attack saying we n
about drones is not that u.s. forces can kill people from the air using targeted so-called precision-guided missiles. u.s. forces have been killing people from the air for as long as we have had the capacity to put armed things in the air. what is novel about what our government is doing now in our day is not necessarily the technology. yes, we are using remote piloted aircraft versus traditionally piloted aircraft to launch these same missiles. but the type of aircraft, that is, the delivery system for the hellfire missile is not the new moral strategic legal thing that we are finding ourselves newly responsible for grappling with as citizens. it is not the technology by which u.s. forces are killing people which is knew in an important way. it's not the technology that's new. it is the circumstances. it is the circumstances of killing people away from where a war is being fought. if the u.s. was using a mix of helicopters and drones to fire hellfire missiles at insurgents who were fighting with u.s. troops in afghanistan right now, nobody would have a different ethical concern or a
deals with the world away from the u.s. military and toward u.s. diplomacy. to upscale our soft power capacity as a country so we have more options beyond just the option of force. this president did a lot to advance that idea simply by putting somebody as high profile as hillary clinton in the job of america's head diplomat. but the overall goal of upscaling state, upscaling diplomacy and development so they are right up there with defense, like she said today, that is widely regarded as a goal that is not yet realized. secretary clinton alluded to that fact today when she said she now plans to become an advocate for that cause from the outside. it is, frankly, easy to imagine that as the core for her return to public life and politics for hillary clinton at some point, but we shall see. the secretary also reflected today on how she is really leaving public life for the first time in a very long time. and she suggested that that might make her a little lonely. >> i am very proud to have been secretary of state. i will miss you. i will probably be dialing ops just to talk. >> dialing
of congressman paul broun today is that paul broun is running to be the next u.s. senator from the great state of georgia. paul broun's wife is already reported to have started telling people that back in georgia. paul broun himself is reported to be telling donors already. and at a press conference tomorrow afternoon in georgia paul broun is expected to officially get into the u.s. senate race. unless of course all this reporting is lies straight from the pit of hell. >> all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. >> if it's not lies straight from the pit of hell, then paul broun is in the running to be the republican party's standard bearer when they try to hold on to georgia's soon to be open senate seat once saxby chambliss retires. what could possibly go wrong with paul broun as their candidate? >>> and further news how paul broun is adjusting to a second term of barack obama, senators decided in virginia that vote shotgun be made much harder in that state. in the state of arkansas, republicans voted their state should ban abortion at 20 weeks. this comes just days after republicans i
's army now targeting u.s. pipelines and nuclear plants. with us to discuss, the authors of a new report tracing the attacks to military headquarters in shanghai. plus, play of the day. while the press corps was banned from the president's golf outing, tiger woods, david letterman fills in the missing links. >> this is our president playing golf this weekend. huh? >> that's one way to do it. good day. andrea mitchell live in washington where president obama is surrounded by uniform police and is now issuing dire warnings about the consequences if automatic budget cuts, the sequester, will create job losses and a setback to the recovery if that goes into effect next week. in response senate republican leader mitch mcconnell still prefers campaign events to -- joining me now for our daily fix, chris calizza and managing editor of post politics.com. well, chris, we saw the performance at the white house. this was a set piece, if you will. the instant response from mitch mcconnell. the bottom line is neither side is negotiating. the white house now assumes the sequester is going to go into e
his nomination to become at the next u.s. defense secretary. the question was expected to be tough but he appeared uncomfortable, even unprepared. the most heated exchange of the day came from a former close friend, senator john mccain who grilled hagel on opposing the 2007 u.s. troop surge in iraq. >> wiere you correct or incorret when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to -- >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel? the question is, were you right or wrong. that's a pretty straight forward question. >> well, i -- >> i would like the answer whether you're right or wrong and then you're free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no answer. >> well, let the record show you refuse to answer that question. please go ahead. >> well, if you would like me to explain why -- >> actually, i would like an answer, yes or no? >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. it's far more complicated than that. my answer is i'll defer
u.s. citizens. they're expected to zero in as his chief counter-terrorism adviser, specifically what he knew and when he knew it. his knowledge of the administration's use of the tactic faces scrutiny after the release of confidential government documents. drones are used to kill americans believed to be leaders of al qaeda. that news brought backlash from both sides of the aisle along with demands of the administration's legal justification for the strikes. the white house bound to growing political pressure and agreed to hand over the documents to congress. dianne feinstein who heads the intelligence committee says lawmakers should know what brennan knew and when he knew it. she released a statement saying it's critical for the committee's oversight function to fully understand the legal basis for all intelligence and counter-terrorism operations. >>> in a speech last summer, brennan said the use of drone strikes by the u.s. turned al qaeda into a shadow of what it once was. under president obama, the program has been used to take out more than 400 terrorist targets in pakistan and
now open u.s. senate seat. also today, the president gives a barn burner in minnesota. he says on the political issue where we are supposedly so politically divided that we can never make progress of any kind, he says on that issue specifically, actually, right now we have a national consensus that we can move on. that's all ahead. >>> plus, the political right all at once, all in unison gets very vocally angry with karl rove. poor karl. frank rich from "new york" magazine is here on the show tonight. we've also got the latest conspiracy theory about the terrifying photo shopped secrets of president barack hussein obama. did you know his emotional name is hussein? the conspiracies about the president get even more conspiratorial than they have in years past. >>> we're beginning with a big deal, a story you will not see anywhere else, because it is an nbc news exclusive. nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff has uncovered something that is not classified, but treated as one of the biggest secrets of this administration. it's something the administration has
a confidential 16-page memo that justifies the targeting killing of u.s. citizens abroad suspected of being terrorists. this decision to release the document came hours before brennan was to face a serious grilling by lawmakers outraged over the program. the biggest critic, democratic senator ron wyden who says the president has been stonewalling congress for years and suggested blocking brennan's nomination. president obama called wyden specifically last night. >> clearly, the president's call to senator wyden so unusual and trying to ward off what could be a calamitous hearing today. >> what standard will barack obama be held to after the pictures of the little children who were killed by his cone drone attacks are placed before the jury in the hague? >> i was encouraged last night when the president called and he said as part of this effort, he is going to try to drive a more extensive discussion about these issues. every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. i don't think that, as one person said, that is too much to ask. >> so right no
four days before automatic budget cuts, the sequester, the new secretary of state tries to reassure u.s. embassy employees. >> i will do everything in my power to go to capitol hill and persuade my colleagues of the vitality, criticality of everything we're doing here. >> in washington president obama is increasing the pressure speaking just now to the nation's governors. >> here's the thing. these cuts do not have to happen. congress can turn them off any time with just a little bit of compromise. >> this weekend republican governors had their say. >> the uncertainty of sequestration is really harming our states and our national economy. >> the sequester was put in place to be a hammer, not a policy, and now here we are just a week away. find another way to do it, and get it done now. >> arizona. we have raphion there. it's going to cut a lot of jobs. >> vatican intrigue. new controversy surface as the pope permits an earlier start for the conclave to choose his successor. and the oscar goes to ben affleck. scoring gold with "argo" as first lady michelle obama stuns with a surprise spe
's great news. man. >> what a story. >> the front page of the "new york times," the u.s. is going to sue s&p for the ratings on these loans. what's going on there? can americans get money from that? >> it's unclear. it sounds as if the u.s. does win, is successful, there would likely be some compensation or some monetary award. >> explain this quickly. they're suing s&p for giving high ratings, high marks to these companies that were on shaky ground, to say the least. >> they're suing -- they're likely going to sue, according to the story of s&p, because s&p rated certain securities and certain packages of things that these financial firms had, gave them high ratings. >> gave the federal's actual instrume instruments the high ratings. >> didn't deserve those ratings. as a result, companies either kept them on their books and they went out and tried to sell them. >> so the justice department is going to sue s&p, going to get all this money, this pot of money -- >> you're jumping two or three sets ahead. that's their hope. >> who will get the money at the end? >> from the stories, i can't te
explodes near the u.s. embassy in turkey. we're going to have the very latest on that developing story. >>> but first, a look ahead at the president's schedule today here in washington. the vice president is at the munich conference in germany. by the way, a lot of u.s. senators are with him including john mccain. the president has one event today, to award science and technology medals at the white house. and, of course, today is the good-bye for secretary clinton at the state department. >>> you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. [ male announcer ] how do you make america's favorite recipes? just begin with america's favorite soups. bring out chicken broccoli alfredo. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. i worked a patrol unit for 17 years in the city of baltimore. when i first started experiencing the pain, it's hard to describe because you have a numbness but yet you have the pain like thousands of needles sticking in your foot. it was progressively getting worse, and at that po
. northbound one, operation control the border between u.s. and mexico, that was never really defined. one definition said the whole border had to be under government surveillance. that is true, it is 100% monitored. another definition says we need to be able to quickly respond to any activity, any activity on the border. we're up 57%, up from 1 first in 2007. but experts believe it is just unbelievably impossible. provision number two, staff enhancements for border patrol to 20,000 full-time agents, check, there are currently 24,000. number three, strong barriers which include at least 7,000 physical barriers, plus 105 radar and camera towers and at least four unmanned vehicles to monitor the border. we currently have the amount that covers the area from texas to california. customs and border protection is nearly 300 in operation. and there are currently five, one more than four, patrolling the border. pretty good on that, number four, catch and return, as opposed to catch and release. in other words, every person caught crossing the border would be detained. it is also called ice, the e
? first, let's ge to the news in new york city. we begin with the white house position on the u.s. government's drone campaign. a justice department memo obtained by nbc news revealed new details in how the attacks are justified despite drawing criticism from civil liberties groups, top administrative officials insist it is consistent with the constitution. >> we conduct those strikes because they're necessary to mitigate on going actual threats to stop plots, prevent future attacks and, again, save american lives. these strikes are legal. they are ethical and they are wise. >> one of the things i want to mi make sure everybody understands is our primary concern is to keep the american people safe. but to do so in a way that is consistent with our laws and consistent with our values. we say that we only take these kinds of actions when there's an imminent threat, when capture is not feasible and when we are confident that we're doing so in a way that's consistent with federal and international law. >> the subject almost certainly set the tone for tomorrow's senate confirmation hee
's straight ahead. we begin with new revelations involving u.s. drone strikes program and the obama administration's legal justification behind the use of such efforts against al qaeda suspects. a new 16-page memo copy of which was obtained by nbc news offers fresh insights into this controversial practice including the killing of american citizens overseas if they're believed to be senior operational leaders of al qaeda or an associated force. even if there's no intelligence indicating they're engaged in an active plot to attack the united states. >>> such a strike, of course, took place in yemen in september 2011 killing two operatives. both of them were american citizens who hadn't been indicted by the u.s. government or charged with any crimes. in the past, attorney general eric holder has spoken publicly about the administration's three main pcriteria for justifying a legal strike against a u.s. citizen overseas. they must pose an imminent threat of violent attack, capture is infeasible and the operation must be squint law of war principles. but this newly obtained memo elabora
address january 24th of last year, just weeks after the last u.s. troops had left iraq for the last time. in the run-up to this year's state of the union address, just this weekend, the weekend before the first state of the union of president obama's second term, this is what happened in afghanistan. this is the change of command ceremony in afghanistan. general john allen handing over command of u.s. and international troops in afghanistan to a new commander, to general joseph dunford. this is the 14th time that command has transferred in the afghanistan war, because that war has been going on for that long. general john allen is out as commander. he is handing over the leadership. if all goes as planned, general dunford is going to be the last person to have this job. he will be the 15th of 15 u.s. commanding generals for this war in afghanistan. as such, a substantial portion of what he'll be responsible for as commander will be leaving, the huge logistical feat of getting us after fighting there for 12 years. is that going to be a focal point of tomorrow's state of the union address?
opportunity knocking for the strug lingpost office. >> introducing a new fragrance by the u.s. postal service. manila. >> manila. >> smell like an envelope. go places. manila. manila. express mail your senses. hmm, paper. adhesive. manila by the u.s. postal service. the smell of mail. >> i think he is on to something. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. president obama and congressional republicans remain worlds apart on a realistic solution to prevent billions of dollars in automatic cuts. the sequester from kicking in march 1st. right now the politics are trumping any movement towards compromise. joining me now for our daily fix chris calizza, msnbc contributor and managing of post politics.com, and washington post reporters laurie montgomery and nia malika henderson. chris, first to you. set the stage for us. there's no solution in sight. is the white house expecting it has the high road in terms of politics of it and that republicans will be on the defensive because i don't see any way they're bridging the gap. there is no outward ed that began is being bridged. i think the
. this is the statement. "the reports that the u.s. told allies that we are considering 8,000 to 12,000 u.s. troops after 2014 are not correct. a range of 8,000 to 12,000 troops was discussed, but it was discussed as the possible size of the overall nato mission, not the u.s. contribution." ah, important clarification. so the defense minister from germany had apparently told reporters that 8 to 12,000 troops was how many troops america was going to keep in afghanistan. everybody thought that was very big news since that's not what we heard hear at home at all. maybe that is how the german guy understood it, but it is apparently not the way that leon panetta meant it. that was the headline out of brussels today. those troops, that's nato combined, that's not just us. that was the headline. the other news of course was that representing the united states and apparently confusing the germans in brussels today was leon panetta, the guy who with great fanfare supposedly just stopped being our secretary of defense. here was leon panetta at his farewell ceremony, his big ornate farewell ceremony. this is dated
his other uncle jim buckley, a former u.s. senator or brent's mother, patricia buckley bozell of the both important writers in our conservative movement. let it start here. the president of rove's new super pac told "the new york times" this week that they are particularly concerned about the senate race in iowa because this guy might get the republican nomination. >> if there is a sexual predator out there who has impregnated a young girl, that sexual predator could pick that girl up off the playground at the middle school and haul her across the state line and force her to get an abortion to eradicate evidence of the crime and drop her off at the swing set and that's not again the law in the united states of america. >> that's the dangerously, of course, iowa conservative steve king. according to a new poll, steve king has a big lead for the republican nomination among republican primary voters who obviously have no problem with crazy but as -- and this is exactly what karl rove fears. that same steve king in that same poll is running 11 points behind the leading democratic
't want his u.s. citizenship anymore, he had officially joined al qaeda. al qaeda had declared war on the united states. so when people say there's a list of americans, not really. this a time honored tradition. the legal basis goes back many years when u.s. citizens would go on flight for foreign nations that were engaging in combat with the united states. so what they were saying is once you've made that choice, you no loca longer get the protections that you would. if you join the enemies oversea, you joan the enein the enemies . we do have oversight. i knew about the operations leading up to it and i review all of the air strikes that we use under this title of the law. >> well, you review the air strikes after the fact, correct? >> in this particular case, we knew -- well, remember, the air strike itself is just a tool at the end of the day. the policy, research, intelligence packages is what leads up to it. this is just, to be very blunt about it, pulling the trig ger t the end of the day. so all the stuff that comes up before that is in the purview. some of it is isolated to
control of the american administration, that the u.s. is an imperial power. it opposes nato. a bit of a throwback group, a far-left marxist group. has some ties in europe and it has consistently attacked turkish authorities and sometimes business interests as well. and this time the u.s. embassy. according to tush irk authorities who have identified the bomber from remains, he was closer to 40 years old and had actually spent four years in a turkish prison for militant activity. but he was released for medical reasons. chaos of police and ambulances in one of ankara's most fortified districts, embassy row. on one stretcher, a well-known turkish journalist. she had come to have tea with the ambassador. she was at a visitor's gate in a security screening room when a suicide bomber came in, and reached for his waist. a guard yelled bomb and then it exploded. turkish media identified the bomber who killed himself and a turkish guard. >> right now, we're all dealing with our sadness at the loss of our fellow member of our embassy, we salute his bravery. >> reporter: the turkish governme
. >>> back to "hardball" now. the "sideshow." state of shock. aaron schock. let's say you're a u.s. congressman in a state that's expected to take up the issue of gay marriage in the coming weeks, and let's say you have a history of supporting a federal amendment that would ban it entirely. in those circumstances you might expect it to be a hot topic with reporters, right? illinois congressman aaron schock apparently never saw it coming. >> why don't you support that issue, by the way? >> well, i just haven't. >> i mean, is there a reason? it seems to be a few states have passed it. obviously the needle is moving in a lot of polls. i'm wondering what the reason is? >> i think everybody has a set of beliefs on issues, social issues in particular, that are a reflection of how they were raised and their set of beliefs. i think why you're seeing some of these changes in laws is because people's views in society have changed. >> well, that was illuminating. schock has said he's considering a run for governor of illinois. >>> a rough week for some members of the 49ers. it started when ch
says that the u.s. can go after people it believes are senior leaders of al qaeda, engaged in operations aimed at killing americans even if there is no imminent threat. here is what house intelligence committee chairman told andrea mitchell about that. >> you don't just kill the enemy when they're at the gate. you try to make sure that you get them before they even get close to having an operation that could kill americans. that's the whole safety net that we try to produce anywhere in the world. and so there isn't some long list of americans. i can candidly tell you that. >> but, carrie, the other argument is this is execution without trial and aren't we supposed to be better than that. >> that's at the root of the concern you're hearing from a growing number of democrats, certainly from ron wyden. this is based on the idea, a lot of the criticism is two part. one, there's concern about the legal basis for this and just the act, but at the same time just concern that the president, who's made a big part of his brand and a big part of his campaign promising on being transpa
to the deadly raid on the u.s. consulate. >> for you to testify that our posture would not allow a rapid response, our posture was not there because we didn't take into account the threats to that consulate. and that's why four americans died. >> we never received a request for support from the state department. which would have allowed us to put forces -- >> so it's the state department's fault? >> i'm not blaming the state department, i'm sure they had their own -- >> who would you blame? >> i stand by the report of the accountability review board. >> are you surprised that the president of the united states never called you, secretary panetta, and say, how's it going? >> you know, normally in these situations -- >> did he know the level of threat? >> let me finish the answer. we were deploying the forces, he knew we were deploying the forces, he was being kept -- >> i hate to interrupt you but i got limited time. we didn't deploy any forces. >> no, but the -- >> wait a minute. >> it was over. the event was over before we could move any -- >> it lasted almost eight hours and my questio
't come lightly. u.s. officials make sure they're focused on somebody who's a direct threat to the u.s. watch chuck todd's full interview online. >>> okay, this morning the baltimore ravens are the super bowl champions. after defeating the san francisco 49ers. 34-31. in a game that went down to the wire but not without a hitch. a report on the all the day's festivities in the big easy. >> reporter: after a week of preparations, and parties, the action moved inside. ♪ oh beautiful >> reporter: a poignant start. students from sandy hook elementary singing "america the beautiful." then -- a power rendition of the national anthem by alicia keys. followed by america's game. >> flacco, end zone snchltd. >> reporter: baltimore took a commanding lead early. and then at halftime, beyonce commanded the stage. ♪ all the single ladies >> reporter: joined in a surprise reunion by destiny's child. the second half began with an electric kickoff return by jacoby jones and then the electricity went out. a loss of power left half the stadium in dark. when the game ended it was the niners who had all
questions answered. >> some senators said they want to examine information regarding the u.s. consulate attack in benghazi. majority harry reid plans to bring it up at the end of the month. >>> president obama again defended his administration's use of drones in the wear on terror. he did admit that the public should know about how the program works. >> what i think is absolutely true is that it's not sufficient for citizens to just take my word for it that we're doing the right thing. >> a classified memo recently revealed u.s. citizens suspected of terrorism have been targets of drone strikes. >>> today, a bail hearing for oscar pistorius, the olympic athlete and double amputee charged with murdering his girlfriend inside his upscale south african home, he arrived at court 24 hours after his arrest, he was taken into custody on thursday, after police said that he fatally shot his girlfriend reeva steenkamp four times. >>> police have given few details about the case other than to say that steenkamp died of multiple gunshot wounds. >>> billion-dollar bettor. the former mayor of san die
.com and washington post editorial columnist ruth marcus, and u.s. economics editor for the economist. greg, first to you. you're the expert on all things jobs. the revisions are really good and strong. it shows that 2012 was a lot better. take us through the numbers. >> yeah. well, the numbers for january were more or less as expected. about 157,000 jobs. what was more interesting was that even though that was a slowdown. it was a slowdown from what turned out to be a good fourth quarter of 2012, just when we thought the fears of the fiscal cliff were going to take hiring, we were creating around 200,000 jobs per month. we -- the last estimate suggested it was only around 150,000 jobs. it suggested a nice bit of momentum coming into 2013. >> chris, this is good news for the white house going into negotiations with the hill in terms of the economic movement at least in 2012, but they do have to worry about the softness in january. >> absolutely. you know, i have actually had greg explain to me many times about this because the thing that i'm so fashion natured by is the revisions. i mean, it's lik
days out, trying to get a resolution to sequester. the without is pushing and excited about this new u.s. today poll that shows the majority of americans want to get this deficit situation fixed. if sequester does happen there's 750,000 jobs that would be lost. marsha fudge, the head of the black caucus says indeed if that happens we're going back into recession. >> let's look more at the new "u.s. today" poll and show everybody, 40% are saying let the cuts happen. 49% are saying delay the cuts. margie, when we find out the president and white house are coming out smelling better than a lot of people might anticipate them to do, so why not just let this go through? if republicans are going to look so bad, wouldn't you as a democratic strategist say, you know what? let's go through this, they'll get the blame. >> they're not looking at the political calculation, but what the effect will be for the american people. you're talking about over 1 million kids will lose. first responders, airport security, i mean, there are all kinds of real impact, real direct impact on our everyday life. that
't the deployment of the u.s. forces, it was the essentially hiring or bribing, if you will, of young sunnis that helped stabilize that. so there's a legitimate conversation that could be had. and john mccain didn't want a conversation. he wanted to enforce an orthodoxy about his role and that war and that surge because that's the dividing line for him about who's a real patriot and who's not. and that fundamentally was what much of the hearing was about today. are you genuinely a patriot and see the world like we in the kind of national security hawk wing of the gop do, or do -- but i think hagel, you know, while he's not going to be given credits for the most eloquent glad-handing senator or defense secretary, he seemed like a thought. sergeant who had been on the front line, who gave i think a very compelling set of reasons why this surge didn't deserve a binary yes-no response. >> steve, big picture, you're talking about how john mccain made his role in the politics of this very central to today's hearing, and i hear that's absolutely what happened. and that's absolutely one of the thing
." i'm chuck todd. a lot of news to get to and by the way the u.s. post office will hold a 10:00 a.m. press conference that they are cutting saturday mail and they will take six months and a question we all have why does it take six months? good-bye fiscal cliff and debt ceiling, hello to the efforts of delay or suspend the "s" word, the sequester, that automatic defense and spending cut mechanism that's set to take effect on march 1st. on tuesday president obama went public for the first time in a while with his opening offer on the budget battles ahead, and today he goes behind closed doors with senate democrats in their retreat in annapolis to strategize and preview his state of the union addressch the white house wanted to send two messages with the president's visit to briefing room yesterday. one, that the burden of shutting off the sequester is on congress. >> if congress can't act immediately on a bigger package, they should at least pass a smaller package of spending cuts and tax reforms that would delay the economically damaging effects of the sequester for a few more mon
, it has to deal with the monster that eric cantor helped create. u.s. congressman paul broun is expected to run for the georgia senate seat held by retiring -- i used to think this guy was right wing -- saxby chambliss. broun said this, i think the only constitution that barack obama upholds is the soviet constitution, not this one. he has no concept of this one, though he claimed to be a constitutional lawyer. steve king who suggested president obama's parents may have announced his birth by telegram from africa. he's the leading pick for an iowa senate seat. can your party stop its candidates being taken up by nuts? >> i think for washington people to say to grassroots activists we have to tell you how you're going to make your pick is a big mistake. >> how do you stop these groups from winning? >> you know what you need to do? you need to educate the voter and get back to the -- >> get them with the right majors. >> hit them with the right -- >> and marco rubio is a great example of somebody who was an alternative candidate. you throw the baby out with the bath water. i don't think yo
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